| Samsung PN58C8000 58-Inch 1080p 3D Plasma HDTV (Black) | 
| Brand: Samsung
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Rating:  28 reviews
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Color: Black
Media: Electronics
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Batteries Included: Yes
Display Size: 58
Shipping Weight (lbs): 88.2
Dimensions (in): 13.3 x 54.6 x 36.1
MPN: PN58C8000
Model: PN58C8000
UPC: 036725234130
EAN: 0036725234130
ASIN: B0036WT41U
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| Features:
| • | Clear Image Panel | | • | Elegant Style with Slim Design | | • | BD Wise; rich color | | • | 3D Experience | | • | Motion Judder Canceller |
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Product Description
Samsung's new C8000 Series plasma flat panel HDTVs represents our best design innovations and performance found in our 2010 line of Plasma TVs. First impressions begin with an elegantly styled brushed metal gray cabinet that measures a mere 1.5" deep. Lighter in weight, more efficient than our previous designs, our feature innovations offer a more powerful Internet@TV with customizable access to Internet content, a convenient home networking capability via its DLNA standard connectivity, a high speed USB, and the new 3D HDTV viewing experience with optional Samsung 3D glasses. Picture performance refinements aimed at delivering a very natural film-like, highly detailed picture with deep black levels and brighter colors you'll find Samsung's Cinema Smooth 24p processing, Motion Judder Canceller and Real Black Filter. Sit back and enjoy the C8000 series plasma HDTVs with a smartly designed brushed metal wrapped remote controller.
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 Samsung Plasma Beats LED/LCD May 1, 2010
Happy in Ohio (Ohio)
66 out of 67 found this review helpful
I had the c8000 55" LED for over 3 weeks and loved the bright and clear picture, but it was hard to get the settings right for normal viewing, the viewing angle was atrocious vs. even LCD screens, and parts of the screen in dark scenes still have some clouding. I sent the LED back and purchased the c8000 58" plasma. I'm very happy with it so far, especially after tweaking the settings. Now, I have all the pop of the LED but with consistent colors, better blacks and unlimited viewing angle. The details. . . .
Pros
Great uniform picture - great price the $ vs. LED. Easy to self-calibrate vs. the LED Samsung.
Remote is very nice compared to the bluray remote (same as the c8000 LED remote), but I'm using a Harmony 900 for all my components so it isn't used.
You can turn off the motion judder canceller and ditch the soap opera effect when watching movies. Cinema Smooth makes high-end movies look great.
Bright screen compared to plasmas I've had.
Real 3D content (Monsters v. Aliens) looks great (even with a 1.3 highspeed HDMI cable -- however, 2D to 3D conversion of regular programs gives only nice depth - not pop out 3d.
Very thin TV - fairly lightweight for a plasma - nice stand (stainless) and bezel (dark gray), but not as cool in my opinion as the LED version which has a stainless bezel.
Netflix app works through both through the TV and the bluray and surprisingly has good pic quality - not bluray like, but close to DVD quality with no glitches (assuming you have a fast internet connection).
Much less screen glare than the c8000 LED. This TV does not have a matte screen like many other LCD HDTVs, but Real Black Filter kills the glare much better than the c7000 plasma I saw at BB. Note that the c8000 LED has an incredibly shiny screen, making it difficult to watch in a bright room.
Like all plasmas, the screen looks the same despite your seating position in the room. The c8000 LED has a good picture when straight on - but move a few feel off center and the picture would fade substantially. No such problems here.
Cons
TV isn't wifi - need a $80 adapter or have to hardwire it - TV firmware didn't update through the adapter - had to update on Samsung site with USB.
Overall a top notch TV that is larger than the LED, has a better and more uniform picture, lower glare, better off angle viewing and is cheaper. What is not to like? Here are my settings after having the TV a month. If you have a bright room or if you like the "pop" of the LED, these settings will blow you away. If you have a dark basement or watch only at night, dial the CellLight back to 10 or so and maybe put the color on normal vs. cool and you'll be set:
CAL-DAY Mode, Cell Light 20, Brightness 50, Color 50, tint 50/50, Sharpness 40, cool, native, MJC off, Filmmode 1, black (darker), dynamic contrast (med), gamma 2, other settings on auto. Cinema Smooth to "on" but it only works on bluray 24p input.
Picture Perfect in Ohio July 29, 2010
M. Van Allen
12 out of 12 found this review helpful
An amazing plasma TV! Wanted to upgrade from a bulky and heavy projection TV upstairs to new flat screen TV to make a media room in finished basement. Wanted latest 3D technology that wouldn't become obsolete so soon. Didn't go to local stores to view demonstration of TVs since don't know how well they are set up. Instead relied on Internet reviews posted on various models by owner of new TVs. Samsung PN58C8000 plasma recived lots of good reviews including comments on how picture didn't change with viewing angle or across screen, 600 Hz sub-field motion, deep blacks and only 1.5" thick.
This was most expensive purchase we've made thru Internet & it turned out fine! Order was completed on a Tuesday morning, set was shipped Tuesday afternoon and arrived at our Ohio home that Friday morning in fine condition. Set was placed on VAS TV stand we got from local Walmart that allowed 70 degrees rotation left or right so it could be viewed at kitchen or media room. Stand that came with TV provided 20 degrees left or right rotation. Used HDMI 1.4 cables to connect Samsung 3D Blu-ray disc player BD-C6900 and cable box. Set had no noticeable buzzing with or without ferrite cores on power cord which smooth out power voltage spikes. Set was manufactured in June 2010 so buzzing reported by some earlier reviews must have since been fixed by Samsung. We have not yet used Internet to upgrade TV firmware.
2D
After using and testing this plasma PN58C8000 TV for over two & a half weeks, it is capable of providinig an essentially perfect picture at any angle and across screen from edge to edge. It is amazing how picture has much better detail, bolder colors, brighter screen and very sharply outlined text than older 1080i projection TV.
Many adjustments can be made to picture in Mode, Advanced Settings and Options menus. Most can be left either at factory settings, Auto or changed once for viewer preference. Mode provides six pre-set picture type configurations of cell light, contrast, brightness, sharpness, color and tint(G/R) plus BD Wise configuration for Blu-ray discs playing on Samsung 3D Blu-ray player. These allow picture settings to be selected for one's preference, program source & time of day. Write down factory settings for each picture type before making any changes to them. TV remote is a nice contemporary design that allows quick access to picture Mode using Tools or Menu buttons.
Samsung 3D Blu-ray disc player has inter-connectivity features of BD Wise and Anynet+ of this TV that automatically sets optimum resolution and other linked operations thru HCMI 1.4 cable. It is one-half the size of older Blu-ray players, loads discs in one-third the time and has neat contemporary touch controls with blue see-thru disc window and logo. Has built-in wireless LAN which we haven't set up yet. Provides great picture for Blu-ray and DVD Movies & is frequently bundled with Samsung 3D TVs.
There are two test patterns for settings on shades or colors in Menu- Picture- Advanced Setting- Expert Patterns. But much more comprehensive HD set-up & tests are on Blu-ray disc, DVE HD Basics, available from Amazon.com. It explains how to set-up TV HD picture & Audio for optimum capabilities. HD video calibration patterns are provided for brightness, contrast, color, sharpness, resolution & geometry plus 1080p advanced video test patterns & demonstration videos. For Cal-Day picture mode, the TV was run thru video calibration & basic set-up patterns. This plasma TV passed every test pattern & could be set-up for exact reproduction of the incoming video.
Setting for Cal-Day mode provided by another reviewer of this TV at Amazon.com works good and only slight changes were made for viewer preference. My settings for perfect picture reproduction in semi-dark basement are: Cell Light 10, Contrast 90, Brightness 50, Sharpness 0, Color 50, Tint 50/50. Advanced Settings- Black Tone Dark, Dynamic Contrast Low, Gamma +1, others Off or Auto. Picture Options- Color Tone Normal, Film Mode Auto 1 or Cinema Smooth (only Blu-ray 24 Hz), rest normal, Auto or Off (Motion Judder Canceller Off). Cell Light can be increased to 15 or 20 if room is bright or just want very bright picture. Note that Sharpness adds artificial edge whitness not in original video & should be set to 0 for best picture fidelity. For personal preferences may want to increase Sharpness to 20- 30 or change other settings such as Black Tone, Dynamic Contrast, Gamma, Color Tone and MJC. Any of Picture Mode Setings can be changed for viewer preference.
3D
Only true 3D content available at this time was 3D movies Monsters vs Aliens and Cloudy With Chance Of Meatballs released at end of June. Viewing Monsters vs Aliens was amazing with great picture depth & occasional pop-out-of-screen events. Much, much better than old eye fatiguing red/blue 3D glasses. Shutter battery operated glasses that came with Starter Kit are very light weight and comfortable. They can fit over regular glasses & operate way off-center & up to 20 ft from IR emitter on TV's lower left corner. One neighbor viewing 3D movie on this TV said it was better looking than 3D shown at movie theaters. Samsung 3D Blu-ray disc player interacts with 3D TV so the 3D movie is automatically set for 3D picture.
It is very important to initially set 3D View Point to -1, factory settings of 0 or plus 1 resulted in ghosting & double background images for 3D Monsters vs Aliens movie. Access thru TV Menu- Picture- Enter- 3D- View Point. Once familiar with TV settings one can always go back to View Point & make adjustments to see what happens. For personal preference, Picture Options- Motion Judder Canceller can be set to Standard or Smooth. Picture Modes available for 3D movies are Standard, Movie & BD Wise.
2D to 3D
With only three clicks on remote, any incoming video from cable or Blu-ray disc player can be converted to a 3D picture. Hit 3D button, Enter & then on left double single person icon. Be sure to set focus/depth of the 3D image in Depth to 8 or 9 to give better 3D effect rather than factory setting of 4 or 5. Access thru TV Menu- Picture- Enter- 3D- Depth. 3D effect is not as deep as 3D movies & doesn't have pop-out-of-screen effects. But it gives a more realistic picture to any movie or cable program including some commercials. Like watching out of a window with background off in distance.
HD programs such as entertainment & sports benefit much from conversion to 3D. Blu-ray and even DVD movies take on a nice 3D effect- particularily with foreground/deep background scenes. Avatar 2D Blu-ray movie converted to 3D was pretty awesome, especially the flying scenes. Other movies meant for 3D, such as Journey to Center of Earth, have many scenes of foreground/deep background that have good 3D effects. Animated movies like Up, Cars, etc., really benefit from 3D conversion providing more immersion & enjoyment. Flying movies like 2012, Pearl Harbor, Amelia, etc. achieve great depth in the flying scenes. The series Over America, Over California, etc., and Wing Flight (available from Amazon.com) are really awesome when flying over cities, mountains and alongside the birds.
This TV was worth it just for the amazing 2D to 3D conversion of programs and movies since true 3D movies & cable programs are so few right now. It is entertaining just to review past viewed movies to see how more realistic the picture is.
Audio
As expected, the built-in small two speakers audio is poor, typical of flat screen TVs. It is mandatory that at least a 5.1 receiver/speaker set-up be used to get nearly the theater experience. Doesn't have to be very expensive or new system to achieve the enjoyable surround sound to go with fantastic looking movies. Samsung 3D Blu-ray disc player only has one HDMI 1.4 output, one digital optical output, analog 7.1 output & 2 Ch analog but no HCMI 1.3 output for current receivers. Newer 7.1 audio receivers have HDMI 1.4 pass-thru to TV & best Dolby & DTS capability. Otherwise a 5.1 receiver that supports lower quality Dolby Digital & DTS thru the optical connection to disc player is ok, like our 2001 audio system that can still rattle the walls. We plan to up-date to 7.1 HDMI 1.4 pass-thru system later.
Summary
A TV capable of giving perfect reproduction of original video at any viewing angle and can adjust many things for personal preferences of picture. 3D movies are awesome & gives occasional pop-out-of-screen effects. 2D to 3D conversion of cable programs & movies can give really nice realistic effect when have foreground with deep background- particularily flying & mountain scenes. TV is worth it just for 2D to 3D convesion. 3D glasses are comfortable & fit over regular glasses. Samsung 3D Blu-ray player is outstanding with small compact design, amazing quick disc load times & contemporary design with touch buttons & see-thru window above disc. This plasma cons are the poor audio which is universal with flat screen TVs making at least a separate 5.1 or better audio system mandatory for theater like expeience. (Didn't deduct rating for audio.) Also, this size plasma set uses 440W of power compared to 201W for old 57" projection TV & more than same size LCD flat panel TVs. But this is equivalent of only 2 more light bulbs being on and is small price to pay for exceptional picture with 3D capabilties.
Love it May 28, 2010
Res Life St (NYC)
19 out of 22 found this review helpful
I've gone through quite the adventure over the last 5 months with purchasing my new TV. I thought it would be helpful to others if I shared. Long story short, I've gone through the UN55B6000, PN58B860, UN55C7000 and PN58C7000 and PN58C8000.
We moved into a new apartment, and needed a new tv to go over our fire place. We were upgrading from a 5 year old Samsung 720p DLP TV.
--UN55B6000--
Loved the form factor of the TV. Got it home and after a few days I was just unhappy with the overall look of the LCD/LED. I really saw a lot of motion blur.
--PN58B860--
I returned the LED TV and went with this TV. I absolutely LOVED the picture quality of the TV. But it buzzed terribly. It sounded like a bug zapper. I could actually hear it over top of the regular tv volume at a 12 ft distance. Best Buy swapped it out for another one. The second PN58B860 buzzed even louder. I gave it about 3 weeks to see if it would get better but it didn't. So I returned it and waited for the 2010 models to come out.
--UN55C7000--
When I heard that the new 2010 models were out, I went down to my friendly Best Buy to hopefully pick up the new plasma. Unfortunately, they only had the new LED in. The sales person told me that all of the issues were fixed on this set that I was unhappy with previously with the UN55B6000. He convinced me to give it a try and that if I were unhappy with it that they would gladly take it back. Sure there was still lighting in the corners and some motion blur, but it was much better. I still wasn't sold on this set, as I LOVED the PQ on the plasma. I decided to go with the plasma and return this set.
--PN58C7000--
Awesome picture quality - however, it's stuck in the soap opera mode and can't be taken out. To me and everybody I know, it looks like a soap opera in fast forward. I can't stand to watch the tv in this mode. It's very odd to me that it's this way, as only the 8000 is supposed to have MJC, so why does the 7000 have it but not have a way to take it off? I found a work around that allows the user to turn the game mode on/off that then caused the MJC to turn off. As a result of this, I returned it to Crutchfield and upgraded to the 8000 series. By the way, can somebody explain to me who would want to buy the 7000 series plasma and be stuck with having MJC on? I just can't figure it out!
--PN58C8000--
I LOVE this TV. Seriously, it's amazing. I like the dark grey bezel better than the black of the 7000 series. Something about it looks more gadgety/elegant. This TV makes a sound when it's on. I can hear it 12+ feet away when sitting right in front of it. It's definitely not a buzz like the PN58B860 that I had before. It sounds more like a fan running. When the volume is at a regular volume I don't notice it at all. When you engage the 3D mode, it gets MUCH louder though. Still hardly notice it. In comparison to the Xbox 360 fan noise, it's much quieter.
Scrumptious picture. July 21, 2010
Gregory Lee (Waimanalo, HI)
9 out of 10 found this review helpful
I've had my pn58c8000 for a week, as I write this, and I'm very happy with it. (I didn't buy mine from Amazon, since Amazon won't ship it to Hawaii.) Here is my take on a few issues that concerned me when I was deciding to buy:
(1) Is the c8000 plasma enough better than the c7000 to justify its higher price? I think the jury is still out. The c8000 provides control of the Motion Judder Cancellation feature, while the c7000 doesn't, at least out of the box. But a future firmware release may add that control for the c7000. Most commentators dislike the MJC and just want to turn it off. I like it, personally, but in any case, it's good to have control of it. The Real Black Filter of the c8000 may or may not improve the apparent contrast of the picture, but it certainly doesn't hurt.
(2) Will the TV buzz? Samsung and other brands of plasma sometimes make an irritating buzzing or humming sound. This pn58c8000 is my third Samsung plasma TV, and none of my sets have buzzed. When my pn58c8000 was delivered, before I would sign a receipt, I listened carefully to it with the sound off, and I had my wife listen, also. No buzz -- dead silence. (But that doesn't mean your set won't buzz -- it might.)
(3) Will bright patterns be burnt in to the screen? Quite unlikely, I'd say. It's never happened to me. (I have had retained images on my previous plasma sets, but they go away after a few hours.) What little danger there is can be avoided with just a little care. Every few days, at least for the first few weeks, use the TV's menu selection for Screen Burn Protection, Scrolling. The white edge that pans across the screen will make any retained image obvious, and if you see any, just let the pattern run on until it "shocks" the pixels to remove the image. (I just now did that, for the third time since I got my set, and I saw no retained images at all.)
(4) How does 3d look? I don't yet have a 3d blu-ray player, so I can't tell you about 3d blu-rays. I do subscribe to DirecTV, so I've watched several hours of their n3D channel programming, using the Samsung SSG-2200AR rechargeable glasses. It looks good to me. I do occasionally see some "ghosting" with screen graphics, when a faint image intended for the opposite eye is visible. And I could wish for higher light output for sunny scenes. (The 3d LED sets, I understand, are worse on the ghosting issue, but better at providing high light output.)
(5) Does the 2d to 3d conversion work? I was surprised at how well it works, but I don't actually use it very often, so far.
(6) What about setting up the network? Nothing to it, if you've got an ethernet cable connection to a well functioning network. I simply plugged in the cable and turned on the set. It was all automatic. It took a while for the TV to download the standard applications from the Samsung internet servers. I haven't taken the time yet to do more than play a few UTube videos. Seems to work. On the other hand, playing photos/music/videos from the DLNA servers on my local net does not seem to work at all well. The TV can show menus of the available files, but so far it has refused to actually play anything for me. (I do have two other working DLNA clients, a PS3 and two DirecTV boxes, so I don't think it's a problem with my installation.)
(7) Do the picture controls need to be changed? Yes, I think so. Mine looked good when I first turned the TV on, but not great. But there are plenty of user controls available (this is a strong point of Samsung TVs). Here are the picture settings I'm using now: Mode Movie, Cell Light 15, Contrast 62, Brightness 72, Sharpness 15, Color 41, Tint 50/50, and Advanced Settings: Dynamic Contrast Low, Gamma +1, Flesh Tone -9, and Picture Options: Color Tone Warm2, Motion Judder Canceller Smooth, and 3D: Depth 7. Other controls I have at their default values. It looks great, to me, but it might be a little dark toned for some. (Settings edited 7/25/10 to make colors more subdued.)
(8) What settings to use for 3D? The shutter glasses cut out some light and impart an orangey tint, so to get a natural looking picture, you have to compensate, somehow. I'm not all that happy with the following settings, but it's the best I've been able to do. Mode Standard, Cell Light 18, Contrast 76, Brightness 68, Sharpness 20, Color 43, Tint 54/46, and Advanced Settings: Dynamic Contrast High, Gamma +1, Flesh Tone -9,and Picture Options: Color Tone Cool, Motion Judder Canceller Smooth. (3D settings edited 8/1/10.)
(9) Screen reflections? I have my TV in a very light room, with multiple windows on three walls. There is a window behind my chair, and I do see its reflection in the TV screen, during the day. It's slightly diffused by the TV's screen coating. It doesn't bother me, and my wife hasn't mentioned it, one way or the other.
--Greg
Beautiful TV July 31, 2010
M. Hom (Virginia Beach, Virginia)
5 out of 5 found this review helpful
I've had this 58" TV for a little over a month now and I am still amazed at the picture quality. For reference, I upgraded from a 60" 2007 Sony 60A200 rear projection television. When I was shopping for a new TV, I researched the subject for weeks. I was deciding between this Samsung plasma, Panasonic's VT series plasma, and LG's top of the line local-dimming LED TV. I was set on the LG until I read reviews on AVS forum that the screen was highly reflective and thus, not so good in daylight conditions. However, I really liked how slick LED TVs look with their very slim profile. I decided to go with plasma since plasma TVs have very deep black levels.
I chose the Samsung over the Panasonic for a couple of reasons: First was aesthetics. The Samsung TV is just beautiful. The profile is very thin and can be easily mistaken for an LED TV. The bezel is a matte dark charcoal grey. I really love the matte finish as the glossy finish on many TV bexels is distracting, IMO. The other reason I chose the Samsung over the Panasonic is because of the rising black level problems that Panasonic had with their plasmas last year. Some people say that the black level problem has been fixed while others say that it has not. Either way, I did not want to take a chance. I've heard that the Panasonic has an outstanding picture, but my Samsung's picture is just amazing. Saturated, accurate colors with deep black levels. I'm watching a football game right now and I can't believe how black one of the team's jerseys are. Simply beautiful.
Couple of notes on this TV:
- The screen is not reflective whatsoever. I watch TV during the day on the weekends and I have a very large window adjacent to the TV. No reflections whatsoever.
- The TV has a VERY wide viewing angle, unlike LED TVs. No drop off in contrast or picture quality when viewing the TV from an angle. Also, the TV swivels about 20 degrees each way. Very smooth and stable. Great when I'm in a different part of the room, but still want to watch something. I didn't realize how useful this feature would be.
- You can turn Motion Dejudder off. Some TVs, especially LED TVs, have a "video" or "soap opera" look to them. It's as if you're watching a home video production. Some people like this but others do not. With this TV, you can choose this setting or turn it off. I believe this is one of the big differences between Samsung's 8000 vs. the 7000 series plasmas.
- Some Samsung TVs last year exhibited a buzzing sound when on. Mine has absolutely no buzzing whatsoever.
- Bult-in Netflix and Vudu services are outstanding. Check out Vudu if you're looking for high quality HD movies on demand. Simply beautiful.
- I did not break-in my plasma like many people on [...] recommend. No matter. I've watched lots of ESPN with static images and movies with black bars above and below and I have not seen any image retention or burn-in.
I'm so impressed with this TV that I'm going to get another one later this year for my family room. This is an amazing TV if it is in your price range and I highly recommend it.
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